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2 people adept in micro physiology that bring attention to the micro physiological effects of the spike protein on the systems of immunology can be found in the their substacks "things hidden in complexity". and "doorlesscarp". they take from studies and build the cases and implications that demonstrate that the spike protein ( both from the infection and from the shots) cause a depression and suppression of the immune system by affecting complex things that up and down regulate immunological pathways of function. I highly recommend these two substances and if you have the time to go back before oct5 and read of what was known or indicated through published research, that are all cited. That those 3 on the podcast would make such assumptive idea around safety for these shots is really quite reckless.

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I don’t think it is fair to be bringing weight and attention to studies published after oct 5. However, such studies may indicate that there is likely no studies at the time that support what these people are claiming and so they are only assuming it .

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Half way in and I feel disappointed that the three of you could not do a better task of rebutting the statement made from Oct. I assume that you could have had the opportunity to listen to the podcast and take notes and address the points

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